Talk:Jack Brymer

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While revising this article I have, with regret, removed the following, all contributed by User:Saxstudio in December 2009. Saxstudio noted at the time, "Additional information which I learned as his private pupil. I have about 10 hours of tape-recordings of these lessons, and his voice in inimitable, so it is verifiable", and I'm sure that's true, but I'm afraid it doesn't meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources.

  • 1. He learned everything he knew about the Saxophone by having to play it next to Walter Lear (the doyenne of Classical Saxophone of those days), who supplied him with a mouthpiece for the Alto Saxophone (which he played for the rest of his life).
  • 2. He was an important session musician. He played Bass Clarinet on the sound-tracks of the Hammer horror movies featuring actors Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee.
  • 3. He took over leadership of the London Saxophone Quartet after the death of its founder Michael Krein, playing Soprano Saxophone (which he considered the most 'Classical' of the Saxophone family).
  • 4. He was virtually alone in being the complete master of both the 'Classical' and the Jazz styles. He could play Benny Goodman's style almost indistinguishably from Benny Goodman himself.
  • 5. He was a personal friend of Benny Goodman. In earlier years, he played Saxophone and Clarinet in Dance Bands.

I have removed this very interesting (and I'm sure correct) material with great reluctance, but I think WP's rules require it. I'd be delighted to be told I'm wrong, but, alas, I fear I'm not. Tim riley (talk) 19:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I would have no hesitation in removing 1 and 4, which seem to be useless trivia, either plagiarized from this or vice versa. Theoretically 2 is verifiable, if there are complete credits for the soundtracks of these movies (and it is also here). I would put that in with a cn tag. Part of 3 ought to be verifiable if there were any reviews of this quartet, or if it has a good website with history. Again, it is either copied, or vice versa, from this. Re:5 - Other than the same tribute site, I see nothing on Google that indicates that Brymer and Goodman were close friends. If you could find no indication that he played with dance bands, I agree that that should not go in. In summary, I would try to check on #3 and I would put in #2 with a cn tag. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

You can use the his AllMusic bio as a ref. Also his Telegraph obit. See also this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)